2012 - A Scientific Reality Check

Donald Yeomans
Donald Yeomans

There apparently is a great deal of interest in celestial bodies, and their locations and trajectories at the end of the calendar year 2012. Now, I for one love a good book or movie as much as the next guy. But the stuff flying around through cyberspace, TV and the movies is not based on science. There is even a fake NASA news release out there… So here is the scientific reality on the celestial happenings in the year 2012.

Nibiru, a purported large object headed toward Earth, simply put - does not exist. There is no credible evidence - telescopic or otherwise - for this object’s existence. There is also no evidence of any kind for its gravitational effects upon bodies in our solar system.

I do however like the name Nibiru. If I ever get a pet goldflish (and I just may do that sometime in early 2013), Nibiru will be at the top of my list.

The Mayan calendar does not end in December 2012. Just as the calendar you have on your kitchen wall does not cease to exist after December 31, the Mayan calendar does not cease to exist on December 21, 2012. This date is the end of the Mayan long-count period, but then – just as your calendar begins again on January 1 - another long-count period begins for the Mayan calendar.

The Galileo spacecraft's view of the Moon and Earth
On December 16, 1992, 8 days after its encounter with Earth, the Galileo spacecraft looked back from a distance of about 6.2 million kilometers (3.9 million miles) to capture this remarkable view of the Moon in orbit about Earth. Image credit: NASA/JPL
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There are no credible predictions for worrisome astronomical events in 2012. The activity of the sun is cyclical with a period of roughly 11 years and the time of the next solar maximum is predicted to occur about May 2013. However, the Earth routinely experiences these periods of increased solar activity – for eons - without worrisome effects. The Earth’s magnetic field, which deflects charged particles from the sun, does reverse polarity on time scales of about 400,000 years but there is no evidence that a reversal, which takes thousands of years to occur, will begin in 2012. Even if this several thousand year-long magnetic field reversal were to begin, that would not affect the Earth’s rotation nor would it affect the direction of the Earth’s rotation axis… only Superman can do that.

The only important gravitational tugs experienced by the Earth are due to the moon and sun. There are no planetary alignments in the next few decades, Earth will not cross the galactic plane in 2012, and even if these alignments were to occur, their effects on the Earth would be negligible. Each December the Earth and Sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence.

The predictions of doomsday or dramatic changes on December 21, 2012 are all false. Incorrect doomsday predictions have taken place several times in each of the past several centuries. Readers should bear in mind what Carl Sagan noted several years ago; “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

For any claims of disaster or dramatic changes in 2012, the burden of proof is on the people making these claims. Where is the science? Where is the evidence? There is none, and all the passionate, persistent and profitable assertions, whether they are made in books, movies, documentaries or over the Internet, cannot change that simple fact. There is no credible evidence for any of the assertions made in support of unusual events taking place in December 2012.

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    182 Responses to “2012 - A Scientific Reality Check”

  1. peterhutchinson Says:
    November 10th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    good for you!

  2. Ardelean Marius Says:
    November 11th, 2009 at 1:36 am

    Yes I totally agree. People have a great imagination.

  3. Thomas C. Wood Says:
    November 11th, 2009 at 9:51 am

    Given all the “real scientific evidence”, the Doomsday 2012 people are full of cow manure, & playing “Chicken Little”, for no good reason @ all.

  4. lance houston Says:
    November 11th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    having heard about periodic wobbles to the earth,If the north &south poles ice caps totally melted could that disturb the balance of the earths rotation.

    JPL geophysicist Richard Gross responds:

    The Earth rotates about its axis once a day, but does not do so uniformly. Instead, the rate of rotation varies by up to a millisecond per day. Like a spinning ice skater whose speed of rotation increases as the skater’s arms are brought closer to the body, the speed of the Earth’s rotation will increase if its mass is brought closer to its axis of rotation.

    Conversely, the speed of the Earth’s rotation will decrease if its mass is moved away from the rotation axis. Melting ice that is grounded on land, like mountain glaciers and the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets, will change the Earth’s rotation only if the meltwater flows into the oceans. If the meltwater remains close to its source, by being trapped in a glacier lake for example, then there is no net movement of mass away from the glacier or ice sheet, and the Earth’s rotation won’t change. But if the meltwater flows into the oceans and is dispersed, then there is a net movement of mass and the Earth’s rotation will change. For example, if the Greenland ice sheet were to completely melt and the meltwater were to completely flow into the oceans, then global sea level would rise by about 7 meters (23 feet) and the Earth would rotate slower, with the length of the day being longer by a few milliseconds than it is today.

    Ice that is floating in water, such as the Arctic ice cap, does not change sea level as it melts and hence does not change the Earth’s rotation.

  5. sri Says:
    November 11th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    would you please write these scientific reality checks to History Channel so that they stop broadcasting their program on 2012 and stop terrorizing the world

  6. Chris Says:
    November 12th, 2009 at 5:59 am

    People who make “End of the world” claims should always be ridiculed. After all they will never have a chance to gloat.

  7. darrellparker Says:
    November 12th, 2009 at 9:21 am

    But it should make a great movie, something like “When Worlds Collide”. So as atronomical events go, when will the next NELE come to pass with a NEO or can we trust the moon to get us out of the big one?

  8. jmallb Says:
    November 12th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    This “rumor” has been propagated by idiots trying to make a name for themselves. Just like the “black hole” CERN will produce, or the H1N1 virus scare (invented by politicians and bureaucrats, only to justify their jobs, cause a panic and multiply the drug companies’ already exorbitant profits). If U buy in all that garbage, I have a nice tower situated in Paris that I want to get off my hands!!!!!

  9. Chris Traynor Says:
    November 12th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    I DO HOPE I do not doubt for a moment that your facts are accurate and 100% persuasive to the extent that no one should doubt the rising of the Sun on December 22, 2012. But may I ask a fair question to help guide us all in the future? In a world where so many people adhere to a large portion of “Life’s Social Rules & Conventions” out of tradition, personal obligation and a desire to live in an orderly environment where one can rely upon both BIG and Not-So-Big responsibilities being kept (i.e. paying of bills, issuing valid checks, reporting to work, maintaining property and yard, driving conscientiously, leaving a gratuity for the foodserver, not firing bullets into the air when The NY Yankees won The Series, etc.). If a celestial body (a true “planet killer”) were hurtling toward Earth and its destructive path could not have been predicted, under what conditions would NASA or any governmental agency REVEAL THIS FACT? (particularly 3 years early?). What purpose would be served in the name of this doomsday revelation? One could easily and persuasively argue that only “harm” would be served by NASA’s potential disclosure. Surely, any possible Earth Escape would be for a small, specialized group and that fact … that Planetary Hail Mary Mission would be the most closely guarded secret in the history of mankind; requring all nature of denials and disinformation by every authoratative agency possible - undoubtedly lead by NASA itself. A Conspiratorial Catch-22. Ironic, ain’t it?

  10. Chris Traynor Says:
    November 12th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    The post above, from me, begins with an elegantly moronic sentence fragment. The opening half-sentence was typed very quickly when I went back to add a few thoughts - I really duffed out. It should read:

    I DO HOPE THAT NASA MODERATORS HAVE THE COURAGE TO POST THIS COMMENT. It is a “rug-puller” I know but even NASA would be best served to open their own can of worms.

    I love NASA and what they represent - I always have and I hope I’m never given reason to change that feeling. They are, truly, heroes (not just the astronauts … but especially the men and women who devote sometimes 20 years to a project - never knowing what the eventual outcome will be!).
    Chris

  11. Ryan Says:
    November 13th, 2009 at 3:56 am

    Y2K all over again.

  12. Peter Says:
    November 13th, 2009 at 5:23 am

    Excellent remark Chris! I will use that.

  13. elkinsinbox Says:
    November 13th, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    Me being an autistic person kind of puts some fear in me that the world will end in 2012. I’m glad that NASA and a team of some of the smartest people in the world are proving the doomsdayers wrong. Ever since I watched an episode of Rugrats when I was 7 or 8 years old, I was always afraid of the end of the world. That Rugrats episode depicted the sky falling to end the world. But the sky can’t really fall since it’s nothing but a mix of water, moisture, carbon dioxide, and oxygen. And whatever else forms it. Anyway I know that the atmosphere is at least 3 billion years old. The asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago was the end of the world for that time period. The end of the world PERMANENTLY if nothing else happens should be 3 billion years from now when the sun runs out of energy. Armagedon to the human mind is actually a kayfabe end of humanity. Truth is we don’t know when the world will end. Neither does the ancient Mayans. I don’t know when it will end. Certainly not 12/21/2012. So don’t drink “that last Budweiser” (or if you don’t drink like me “that last Mountain Dew”) and don’t put off that Holiday shopping. I think we’ll be around to see humans return to the moon before the next decade is out. I’ll be glad when this 2012 outburst is over. If the Mayans say that peace will rein over all mankind in 2012 they may be right about that. The Price Is Right will still be the same on 12/22/2012 as it will be on 12/21/2012. That said let’s hope like the last few doomsday prophecies it’s all wrong. I don’t think the world is ending myself. It’s all that stuff people watch on the news. And this 2012 scare is also part of what is hurting the economy. I don’t like talking about things like this. Because this is a sensitive subject. I feel like I have to talk to a bunch of teenagers to get this off my chest. But since this is a government funded website I guess that’s okay. I will close on this. But as a Christian I say, only God knows when the world will end. And don’t eat that last super yet.

    -elkinsinbox

  14. Dawn Says:
    November 14th, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    Thank you for this! My son is 12 today and is completely terrified of the year 2012. His best friend, my nephew, is also terrified and afraid to see the movie. My son is q

  15. Russ Says:
    November 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    I for one love a good sci fi/ disaster film, but when morons feel the need to put up fake websites and try to pass fiction as fact then that crosses the line. I mean come on now, why spread false panic.The discovery channel even jumped on the band wagon with a foolish(nice special effects tho) 1 hour film called 2012 apocalypse, which seemed more like an advertisement for the 2012 move.
    Thank you Nasa for taking your valuable time to set the facts straight, what is upsetting to me is when I read about these chidren that get the crap scared out of them. What would be fitting and just is that since NASA has to dispell these myths and scientific inaccuracies concerning 2012 is that any profits from movies, fake websites, and so called psychics should go to Nasa.

  16. bassam kneiss Says:
    November 15th, 2009 at 6:17 am

    In my opinion what we r hearing and watching about year 2012 is only a set of superstitions and unessecerily true prediction moreover
    all this prediction is based on biblical stories or individual hallucination.

  17. Dinakaran.V Says:
    November 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    I like space each & every planet movements

  18. Liz Says:
    November 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Excellent debunking NASA. I must apologise for the fact that I did go and see the movie 2012, and I have to say… what a load of scientific guff - while a great action movie (suspense, drama and romance with heady music), it is movies like this that frighten the general population into a fear of science and scientists. Personally, two minutes into the movie and I was cracking up laughing at the “mutating neutrinos”. Sadly, people will readily believe a movie over fact. This movie should come with a warning!

  19. swarnali Says:
    November 16th, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    So maybe the Maya were on to us after all. The clock is ticking. And it’s the end of the world as we know it.
    what will you tell about it?its from your site.

  20. swarnali Says:
    November 16th, 2009 at 11:20 pm

    Some advocates for the 2012 catastrophe say that what will actually cause the devastation is an alignment of planets. There is no planet alignment on the winter solstice in 2012. Nonetheless, advocates of doom connect the fictional alignment to astrological predictions or groundless claims about a reversal of Earth’s magnetic field and unprecedented solar storms. “Many internet postings and guests on all-night apocalyptic radio have elaborated on these themes.

    In particular, several threads of irrational thought have created an internet phantom, the secret planet Nibiru. It’s the bowling ball, and Earth is the pin. There is no such planet, though it is often equated with Eris, a plutoid orbiting safely and permanently beyond Pluto. Some insist, however, that a NASA conspiracy is in play and that Nibiru, looming in on the approach, can already be seen in broad daylight from the Southern Hemisphere. It was supposed to become visible from the Northern Hemisphere, too, by last May, but like a fickle blind date, it stood up those awaiting it.”
    please tell me,what is this? I’m so confused!

  21. larisa Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 5:56 am

    what do you mean by “ so maybe the Maya were on to us after all. And it`s the end of the world as we know it“.? it s from your site.

  22. arya Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 10:15 am

    if our atmosphere destroy any asteroid before hiting the earth then how it can hit us

    Don Yeomans responds:

    The amount of energy an asteroid releases when it enters Earth’s atmosphere depends on its mass and speed. On average, an asteroid would have to be over 30 meters (99 feet) before its energy would affect things on the ground.

  23. Ksenia Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 11:56 am

    You say,that everything around the date of 2012 is an internet hoax. I agree and ,of course, believe you. Thank you for your scientific reality,but everyone say and know about planets alignment on Desember, why are you dening that fact?
    Thank you for future answer.

  24. Hari Shankar Mhato Says:
    November 19th, 2009 at 7:02 am

    There are lot of people creating panic amongst us through this internet and on the name of the movie 2012. Being a researcher, I still don’t understand the theory how pole will shift, how earth will start rotating reverse and how will magnetic fields would change ? I mean why this will happen ? any scientific reason?What i believe is we have made this earth to live in somany years so it can not be destroyed by one stroke.I think that the only thing that can destroy everything is the Global warming because we can see that due this almost all the coastal countries like indonesia, malasiya, andaman and nikobar. bangladesh are slowely going down inside the sea. so instead of pulling a nonsense thread we have to do something to fight against this challenge. I don’t know whether a cosmic phenomenon will destroy us or not but if we don’t take major steps against global warming this will surely do, pretty soon.

  25. Mark Says:
    November 19th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    I dont think we will ever trully know when the world will end. I have watched alot of scientific shows explaining all the possabilities and the truth is it could happen anytime. there are so many things happening in the universe that could blink us out of existance. Even if the top scientists in the world could pin point the exact moment, it would be irresponsable to tell people and cause mass panic. We would be in more danger from ourselves in how we would react. There is no sense worrying about something that you cannot change. Just sit back and enjoy the ride

  26. shawna Says:
    November 20th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    it is a shame that if it is a lie about the perdictions of 2012 you have no idea how these perdictions scared the hell out of me and my children. so thank you nasa for clearing things up i love everything about space and the planets. i love you nasa.

  27. Cesar Says:
    November 21st, 2009 at 7:13 am

    “Chris Traynor”, remember Apophis? 2004 MN4, now named 99942 Apophis?

    NOTHING WAS HIDDEN.

    “swarnali”, I live in Southern Hemisphere. There’s nothing unusual on the sky. An there’s a lot o fthe southern sky that can be seen from the northern hemisphere. There’s no way such a planet could be in an orbit that brings it to the inner solar system, and not be object of studyes and news in the last decade. Planetas MOVE SLOW. VERY SLOW.

  28. Randy C Says:
    November 21st, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    What about 4179 Toutatis (1989 AC)? Isn’t that supposed to show up in Dec 2012? Its large enough to kill 1/4 of the planet. Couldn’t it run into a small meteor, altering its orbit slightly? That may be a stretch, but it is interesting the largest known PHA/NEO will be in the neighborhood on Dec 2012.

    Don Yeomans responds:

    Randy, Toutatis will pass within 18 lunar distances (4.3 million miles) of the Earth on December 12, 2012, but that is not considered a particularly close approach and there is absolutely no threat to Earth. Note: the only Near-Earth object to come within 10 lunar distances in the Dec. 2012 timeframe is asteroid 2009 BS5. This small asteroid will safely fly past Earth at a distance of 8.5 lunar distances (2.0 million miles) on Dec. 11, 2011.

  29. Wil Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    For the message above with the question:

    what do you mean by “ so maybe the Maya were on to us after all. And it`s the end of the world as we know it“.? it s from your site.

    on the following address:

    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-guest.html

    There is a beautiful post with the heading: The Great 2012 Doomsday Scare. That post ends with the words quoted by the above person. It was nothing more than a rosy end to the post, call it sarcasm. In other words, the person explained with plenty of detail how there is nothing wrong with the year, the eccentricities of the Mayan calendar which do in no way or form end in the year 2012 (actually an entry is read from the year 4772), and many other fascinating details about the Mayans, people who have written about apocalypse in recent decades as far back as the 70s -if I recall correctly-, and etc.

    In my humble opinion, certain individuals should read fact, avoid fiction if they are not equipped to handle it, and lastly, understand that there are people out there not trying to do you harm, but trying to make a dime out of fifteen cents… even if those cents require a white lie at its premise. The end of human beings is to live; the means to get there are vast and often treacherous to those who stumble upon them.

  30. Wil Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    To Swarnali a few posts above.

    The premise of the message you are referencing merely explains that there are people on the internet posting lies about the year 2012 in order to:
    a) Make a name for themselves
    b) Make Money (writing books, filming million-dollar films, etc.)
    c) Try to get your monetary donations by calling you to the nearest ancestral power (God/Goddess).
    d) Etcetera.

    Nibiru is only a name, that call it science fiction fanatics, created in order to make the less-educated few of society believe a lie. That lie being that there is a rogue planet out there flying through space (some 4 billion miles actually) and it’s headed straight for us! It will take our most recent state-of-the-art technology about 35 years to reach the vicinity of Pluto and this wonderful Nibiru, this science fiction mass of who-knows-what will take 2 years; that’s amazing even by the standards of space movies featuring warp jumps or black hole-to- black hole jumping.

    Don ‘t be confused, the real mass is called Eris and it lies peacefully 4 billion miles away in the outer solar system.

    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html

  31. jaobsrvr Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    2012 was good entertainment, based on the credible idea about the earth’s core heating up from massive neutrino flux caused by a super violent solar flare, thereby resulting in a rotational shift of the earths crust.
    But, again this is Hollywood with its modern awesome special effects.

    No doubt, the potential dangers lurking around us such as NEO’s (asteroids,etc.), and of course the even more real dangers from terrorism and national conflict with nuclear and biological WMD - all make for good fictional box-office entertainment.

    Then, as if this isn’t enough, maybe we should be concerned about the immoral state of the world and what might be coming at us in the near future.

    Hollywood has a real competitor for sobering us up: We don’t see much about it on the liberal-controlled media that spoon feeds us the nightly news.

    If anyone cares and does some unbiased research, facts stranger than Hollywood fiction are available to be pondered upon.

    Real signs are coming upon the world making true what was said 2000 years ago “that even the very stones will cry out”.

  32. tom Says:
    November 24th, 2009 at 5:17 am

    Following the discovery of the planet Neptune in 1846, there was considerable speculation that another planet might exist beyond its orbit. The search began in the mid-19th century but culminated at the start of the 20th with Percival Lowell’s quest for Planet X. Lowell proposed the Planet X hypothesis to explain apparent discrepancies in the orbits of the gas giants, particularly Uranus and Neptune, speculating that the gravity of a large unseen ninth planet could have perturbed Uranus enough to account for the irregularities.lyde Tombaugh’s discovery of Pluto in 1930 appeared to validate Lowell’s hypothesis, and Pluto was officially considered the ninth planet until 2006. In 1978, however, Pluto was found to be too small for its gravity to affect the gas giants, resulting in a brief search for a tenth planet. something to think about !!!!!!!

  33. tom Says:
    November 24th, 2009 at 5:19 am

    Today, the astronomical community widely agrees that Planet X, as originally envisioned, does not exist. However, the concept of Planet X has been revived by a number of astronomers to explain other anomalies observed in the outer Solar System. In popular culture, and even among some astronomers,[5] Planet X has become a stand-in term for any undiscovered planet in the outer Solar System, regardless of its relationship to Lowell’s hypothesis. Other trans-Neptunian planets have also been suggested, based on different evidence.

  34. HARI Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    ya there are fearful rumours spreading around the world
    the movies are major role playing in frightening animations in big screen
    people has to be much educated and avoid such types of rumours atleast in future..
    its my request that some of NASA people should broadcast in TVs that not to believe such type of rumours spreading

  35. ASHLIE Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    OK, so my question is, what about the 3 eclipses i keep hearing we are supposed to have on 12/21/12 and the aligning with the milky way? There are so many things being said at the moment that no one knows what to believe…all i know is i goofed up and watched the 2012 movie that is already out on dvd and it terrified me, i cried allnite and lost sleep because i sat in the room with my children and watched them sleep. This has affected me ever since, i think ive heard something different on just about every show ive attempted to watch about this topic. I always believed that “mankind” would be the end to this planet because of war or pollution or religious beliefs, sadly enough, everyone has a higher power that they believe in, so i don’t understand why that has to be a factor. Ive come to notice that humans are selfish and most of them lazy, but im getting on a soapbox and off the subject. So, primarily i was wondering about the eclipses on that day? What i would give for a peice of mind and to go to bed and wake up with out having to think about 2012, i realize there is nothing we can do if it’s true but i would like to know whats true and whats bs…thanks:)

    Don Yeomans responds:

    Ashlie, there is a total solar eclipse on Nov. 13, 2012 (see link: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2012Nov13Tgoogle.html). It will be visible in northern Australia, New Zealand, the South Pacific and South America. But, there is no eclipse on Dec 21, 2012 and no reason to fear.

  36. china Says:
    November 28th, 2009 at 12:58 am

    from china,i am happy 2012 not true

  37. MIke Detaille Says:
    December 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 am

    I’ve been through so many ends-of-the-world in the last ten years or so it’s become routine…

    To all those cranks out there who literally *want* the world to end, I say, put up or shut up. Show us your data. Show us your images. Put your methods and data through the scientific wringer and see if they hold up. Or is that just wishful thinking?

  38. swarnali Says:
    December 3rd, 2009 at 12:07 am

    Thank you for answering my questions.I hope nothing will happen on 21 Dec,2012 and I want 2013 come early with happiness.

  39. Lois Says:
    December 6th, 2009 at 3:21 am

    Thank you for the voice of knowledge and reason. A good number of people are genuinely frightened about the 2012 predictions. Up until now the veiwing public has been fed only one concept of future events, and esspecially the year 2012. That is the view being sensationalized by the film industry. As for myself, I was not concerned about the Myan calendar, the year 2012, and claims of earth’s destruction. In a case like this, it is truly the “truth” that will set you free. Free from fear.

  40. anxwondy Says:
    December 6th, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    I do not doubt NASA, and I don’t believe in the whole hoax one bit, but I’m wondering if it would be at all possible to tell everyone who does not read this that it is fake, such as a press conference where NASA scientists show proof of nothing being near Earth? I think hearing from NASA and the government, and not on the ocmputer, along with proof, would calm many people down and save people from reading those fake press release etc. Would this be possible?

    JPL Media Relations responds:

    Via the media and web we have reached out to the public to provide them the real story – based on scientific evidence. I believe the process has been both efficient and effective.

  41. stella Says:
    December 7th, 2009 at 5:09 am

    “There are no planetary alignments in the next few decades”, says Don.

    Mid-January 2010 sees a reasonable alignment of Venus, Sun, Moon, Earth and Mars.

  42. alanprittie Says:
    December 8th, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    I do not believe your first statement . Just because of no evidence of a rock, does not mean it’s not out there. NASA needs to look in all directions all the time.

  43. Josh Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    As far as i’m concerned you can post as much bull manure as you want…the point is i dont believe what any of you say…people can make up their own minds for themselves..if you believe that the world may have disastarous consequences then that’s fine….make up your own minds people dont let people make them up for you.

  44. Chuck Says:
    December 18th, 2009 at 4:49 am

    Ok, first of all….. Why does a certain central American civilization’s calendar end in the year 2012? Secondly, what have we done to change our course through space? Are the prophecies real? What event will determine the intersection of NEOs with our planet? Can we survive? Now the answers…….
    Because they were geniuses, nothing, maybe, enlightenment,……. and most importantly …YES!!

  45. bhoff Says:
    December 18th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    The sad reality is people beleive anything they see on T.V. or the web, this is what scare’s me I would hope they are smarter than that and check thier facts from reliable sorce’s. There are many many ways human’s can die off but the only way I think this will happen is by our own hand. The proof of that is right in front of us look at all the hipe this 2012 caused all it will take is the right story. You ever play the game grapevine were you wisper a story in someone’s ear and have it pass on and at the end you hear what the end result is the public is the same way………………..COME ON PEOPLE WISE UP.

  46. Mike Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 3:52 am

    Leeds Utd look set to be promoted this year…. now don’t tell me the impossible can’t happen

  47. dr greg Says:
    December 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    I hadn’t heard anything about an alignment on 21dec’12 until a friend called and was all concerned… so I took out the handy-dandy planet position calculator (based on USNO VanFlanderin’s work) and dialed in that date… and didn’t find much of an alignment, ie, at that time: Sun will just be entering Cap; Mer in mid Sag; Ven in early Sag, Mar about to enter Cap; Jup in late Gem; Sat in early Sco; Ur in early Ari; Nep in early Pis and Pl at mid Cap, ie, other than Jup, yes the other planets are in one 90deg area of the sky… but that doesn’t make much of an alignment in my book.

  48. Kat Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:07 am

    thank you for clearing a lot of things up.
    i was absolutely petrified when my boyfriend told me that the world will end in 2012, he said he looked at a nasa website, but i’m now thinking he was probably looking at a “fake NASA news release” website or something like that. and the movie 2012 also terrified me. its sickening how people make money out of people’s fear by making movies and books.
    even if it was true, i think we all should just continue living life to the full.

  49. Steve Says:
    December 29th, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    If you are afraid there might be some truth to all the 2012 nonsense, then spend some time learing about astronomy and you will be much relieved. In fact one of the best things NASA could do is post or sponser a basic astronomy educational series either on the web or on the HIstory or Discovery channel.

  50. Larry Swatsenberg Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    While all this is certainly interesting from a scientific perspective, and we love to scare ourselves with fictional doomsday scenarios, the reality actually more scary. For about 6500 people in the U.S, the world will end today. The same thing will happen tomorrow, and the next day, and the next, and the next…….
    Their doom will come from heart disease, and cancer, and a few will even reach their end from impact with high speed objects like a bus or a bullet.

    The good news is that the death rates are dropping every year. The bad news is that we are more likely to cause the fall of mankind by resource depletion caused by overpopulation, than by some astronomical ’silver bullet’ with our name on it.

    My one question about all these rocks passing within X lunar distances of the earth is simply this: Is anyone calculating the probability that one of the larger ones may impact the moon?

    JPL Media Relations responds:

    JPL’s Near-Earth Object Program Office monitors asteroid close approaches to the moon and all the planets – including Earth of course.

  51. Moe Badderman Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    A good attempt by Donald Yeomans, but flawed by two faulty assertions:

    (1) “Nibiru, a purported large object headed toward Earth, simply put - does not exist. There is no credible evidence - telescopic or otherwise - for this object’s existence.”

    ++ Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The implication that every such large object headed toward Earth would have been detected with certainty, is unsupported by fact.

    (2) “there is no evidence that a reversal, which takes thousands of years to occur”

    ++ There is in fact no evidence that a reversal takes thousands of years to occur — on the contrary, the Glatzmaier-Roberts model (1995) suggests a much shorter amount of time.

  52. Jason Says:
    January 1st, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Don,

    Thank you very much for the clear and concise “Reality Check”. I was a little disturbed by a program aired by the History Channel about a year ago or so; the program tried to tie several different world-ending predictions together, and seemed to make them all point to 12/21/2112. To my recollection, it included references to the Mayan calendar, the I-ching, and Nostradamus. I found it interesting, but wondered how much truth there was behind it all.

    If the program was accurate regarding it’s representation of the I-ching, it’s a pretty amazing coincidence that the relative measurement of “quality of life” drops off the chart on 12/21/2112, but I believe that’s all it is. Of course, given the rest of the program’s contents, I question whether or not they were just playing to the sensational aspect of the topic and trying to tie the three together.

    Anyway, thanks again.
    -Jason

  53. Phil Says:
    January 3rd, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    Asteroid Apophis has two near earth encounters mentioned (2029 & 2068). Is this a repeating periodic pattern? If so, I am wondering if near earth encounters with asteroids could be exciting the oscillating motion in the Earth’s liquid core as described in the “As the World Churns” article (roughly 42 year period?).

    JPL Media Relations responds:

    The gravitational effects of passing asteroids on Earth are negligible. An asteroid flyby would not excite the Earth’s core.

  54. Al Says:
    January 3rd, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Say science says all these things won’t happen, clearly NASA believes this is true. In the event that Science would be wrong and something out of the ordinary would happen, i mean science is still very young, also the field of astronomy is quite young as well. We can only predict what can happen sure science gives us a clearer insight to what these celestial events might bare and cause for the earth. My concern is whether our not out governments would swallow their pride and let us know in time so that many of us who have the ability to make preparations do so. Yes, so they would cause a bit of panic but it’s our governments responsibility to warn it’s citizens on what we should expect if there is such an event. I just hope that the world changes and the right decisions are made for the people, so that if something bad were to happen we would all have a fighting chance not just those people at the top that make all the decisions.

  55. Megan Says:
    January 4th, 2010 at 1:39 am

    I have had the biggest worries with this subject!!!!!!!! All the History channel and Discovery Channel documentaries, the movies, and all that and with everything on the internet have just been freaking me out especially since I have a new baby. My only question for you Don is that is the government allowed not to tell us such things like this that may happen to not cause panic or is all that you are telling the direct truth because you can tell the direct truth. I just worry the government wont give us the whole truth just to keep us calm. So is this all true from what you said? I am sorry to ask such a question its just I’m 19, a new mom, and hope to graduate college by 2013. I do believe you fully, I just want to make sure I am getting the whole truth. I read in an article by the Sun which is a magazine like the Enquirer that an Asteroid will pass earth on june 13 2010 and start all these disasters. Any idea of an asteroid that soon? I just hope to have all this cleared up so please please help me and tell me as much as the truth as you can.

    JPL Media Relations responds:

    On June 13, 2010, only asteroid 2007 XB10 will fly past Earth – but at the point of its closest approach it will still be over 27 times farther away from the Earth than the moon is from the Earth. Nothing from the night’s sky will prevent you from graduating in 2013. Good luck in college. Study hard.

  56. Nguyễn Văn Diệm Says:
    January 5th, 2010 at 12:21 am

    i think that people always has a great imagination and not base in science.
    i believe in science and out planet has only destroy by us with green house, war, and pollution.

  57. bazi Says:
    January 5th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    Dont worry, there is no 2012 end of the world date.
    With all this stars, and planets and this vast and deep never ending space, You should only worry about how all these things are hanging in place and balance.

    What is the mystery behind all of this ? It has to be an intelligent design. No Questions.
    And according to Intelligent design or GOD, there is no such event in the Bible. So Relax.

    Yes, I know Scientists or science minded folks want Scientifc proof of such things. But, Who made the “Science” as the true barometer for anything . It was scientists. So does not sound too fair in that regard.

    Example - IF a father builds a Lego Model of something and show to his child, saying here follow these instructions. I have it figured out and written it here. BUt the child being adamant does not really follow the book, but tries to explore ( thats his nature), and build his way, breaks it, builds it again, cry, evetually come close to what the model is suppsed to look like. Then he says Voila - I did it. I think i know how it is done now. I see a pattern. etc etc. WHAT THE CHILD DID IS DEFINED AS SCIENCE. WHAT WAS ALREADY MADE BY HIS FATHER WAS CLASSIFIED AS RELIGION.

    So yes Science is awesome, but it has its limitations. And to answer some of the worries here - there is no 2012. Only worrry about- do you know the true Living God - Jesus Christ ?

    Because according to the Bible, there will be an End Time. And I hope you have your Passports stamped and ready when the time comes. Bad News - It will happen. Good News- It is easy to get the passport stamped ( No, you dont need 1 million/Billion Euros to get on that ship, like the 2012 movie).

  58. Barkley Says:
    January 5th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Does the quote “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” apply to global warming also? I hear that the oceans will swell and we will all die in just a few years. Certainly an extraordinary claim with NO extraordinary evidence other than AlGore’s rants (and financial interest).

  59. John Says:
    January 5th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Thankyou for your informative yet entertaining blog, I just wish the media would publish the real answers as you have rather than making a buck on it like all the other fraudsters on the net. Then people would know the truth and stop panicking over nothing.

  60. matt Says:
    January 6th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    In reality the chance of the world ending tomarrow is the same as it is Dec 12 -2012. The real danger is the mass histeria this kind of talk stirs up. Because the vast majority of the population is so poorly informed by the media, that they base their personal theorys on the doomsday garbage they see on tv.

  61. chris c Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:40 am

    I don’t think the gov or nasa would tell us anything it would cause hurt pain and suffering If there was a chance of world end of any sort to keep from panic. but if there was a solar flair or any colide with earth there would be no exscape no rocket or space craft would be able to fly far enuff away to avoid disaster it would take 20 to 30 years to be far enuff away for a solar flare or a planet collide not to efect any space craft. i say just enjoy life and your family and enjoy what little or lot of time we have because if such an end. there is nothing that we can do except what we already do every day.

  62. Megan Tezak Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:39 am

    Don do you know anything about the star titan that is about ready to go through a super nova and could destroy are ozone or whats up with the whole pole shift thing?

  63. Jim Says:
    January 10th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    I believe that your logical, scientifically derived conclusion is correct. I just have one question: In your opinion, if the senior United States government and Nasa officials knew that a large comet was going to completely destroy the earth at some time in the near future and that nothing could be done to avoid it. Would they tell anyone or would they, for the good of all, strive to keep it a secret?

    JPL Media Relations responds:

    NASA policy is to release risk information about all Near-Earth objects to the public in an expeditious manner.

  64. Frozen Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    Just like the “Good Book” says… You’ll know NOT the hour or the day.
    So I agree Mr Yeomans, and am SO glad there are SCIENTISTS out there coming forward and letting people KNOW that all this is Doo doo. Also, it should be noted that the Myan’s probably shouldn’t be our “guide to doomsday”. Considering their “doomsday” couldn’t hold off until this 2012 crap.

  65. Mike Maxwell Says:
    January 12th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    Oh, fiddle. You mean if I run up a big credit card bill, I’ll still have to pay it off in the January 2012 billing cycle?

  66. wildstallion62 Says:
    January 12th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    The world could end tomorrow.I do not believe any predictions are credible.However Global Warming could certatinly hasten it but not in 2 years.100 yrs? Possible.Truly Nostradamus has been wrong before and as for the Mayans their prediction was made 2 thousand years ago with archaic methods.Had they had our modern methods their prediction would probably be different.

  67. ChazResearch Says:
    January 13th, 2010 at 12:13 am

    I know the 2012 doomsday theory is pure fiction, however, lets do another “Reality Check”, and let me pose a hypothetical question for the scientist and others who feel rest assured we are in good hands. If scientists were to discover something that had a high probability of causing massive global destruction, what is the Govt./Nasa’s policy for warning the public?

    JPL Media Relations responds:

    NASA policy is to release risk information about all Near-Earth objects to the public in an expeditious manner.

  68. Stacy Neafus Says:
    January 15th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    Good god people, do you really believe this crap? Who made the freakin Mayan’s the last word on what happens with anything? They were here 2000 years ago!!!

  69. diversity Says:
    January 18th, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    @Moe Badderman

    Sorry, science doesn’t work that way. You can’t claim something to be true (scaring off ignorant people in the course of it) just because nobody can prove you wrong.

    If you need attention, do some good in the world, help a lesser man, stop making estimations that start from the conclusion instead of the observation; you’re thinking is not unique and actually fits with many people’s factless brains.

    Saying that, you’re insulting science as a whole, and I’m already regretting the time wasted getting this off my chest.

  70. Chris Abdool Says:
    January 18th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    The answer to all the speculation for Dec 21 2012,is the following>

    All the authors or book writers and publishers,will become very rich.
    Citizen of the world,nothing will happned.If the world is going to end on the above date,then why write books,to make money.Then the only money you will need, is enought to last you until Dec 21 20012. ( Why write and publish books to make millions,when Dec 21 2012 is just a little over 2 years from now.You dont need millions)

  71. GOUTAM TARAFDER Says:
    January 19th, 2010 at 11:15 am

    Thank you nasa for clearing the doubts actually nasa must comes forward to clear the doubts regarding the non existence of planet X and lowells hypothesis and that about the celestial happenings in and around earth…There is a lot of speculations and rumors regarding the existence of planetx and its collision with earth and then the fire ball engulfing the earth destructing the entire earth….Actually the credibilty of predictions doesnot prove that the earth would be destroyed and it has been proved by nasa ……..The most important part is that we must be happy and enjoy our life …….and we must stop those people who spread rumors and lack scientific basis on marketing the 2012 event ………

  72. BillyBoy Says:
    January 20th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    I don’t know what kind of Kool-Aid this guy is drinking. This debate is not about whether the Earth will meet its demise in 2012, but how. Kind of like global warming.

  73. Whosnext Says:
    January 25th, 2010 at 12:10 am

    I just say one thing to say…

    Until 2004 the Nasa did not even know about the astroid Apophis and some people on this world already knew this.

    Also untill now you cannot even predict its path maybe its impact will be on 2012, 2029 or 2036 maybe it will not impact at all.

    So maybe there is another danger and not only the planet Nibiru.

  74. ruby bean Says:
    February 9th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    i would like to thank don yeoms and david morrison for putting my mind at rest
    i cant belive what sick poeple do for money i was one of the poeple how feel for this
    myth i got very depressed and was crying all the time becuse i was scared and frighted for my family and then i found this web site and 2012hox.com that david morrison sent me telling me all the facts is there anyting you can do stop history channel and distory telling lies and scaring poeple to death espacily young childern at age 7 or 8 years old i would to say THANK YOU for giving my life back now i go for my dream being a gardern expert but just one thing i like to ask could a slour storm hurt us and is coming 2012 or 2013 may becase poeple sintest have differt iders? agian thank you!

  75. Agree with u Says:
    February 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Thank YOU for telling me the truth!!!! I was always thinking about it and couldnt stop being scared!! u r right, people need to look at the facts, not just the crap that itr says on the internet. oh and could you tell discovery to stop putting shows about it and making people go insane and freak out about it please.

  76. Mark Ferrer Says:
    February 25th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    Thanks for this informative and entertaining blog, I just wish the media would publish the real answers as you have rather than making a buck on it like all the other fraudsters on the net.

    Then people would know the truth and stop panicking over nothing.

    Greetings
    Mark
    http://www.mentallion.com

  77. Ak Says:
    March 2nd, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    I’m 12 and my 9 year old sister is terrified, who ever made this crap up has no life and should ashamed of themsevles, I’m gonna laugh my ass off when people are flippin out whille I’m eating my breakfast. NASA knows what they are talking about so this is a relief to my life,
    on a funny note,I don’t wanna die a virgin. No one does :p

  78. anthony Says:
    March 16th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    thank u! i coudnt stop thinking about it

  79. sophia Says:
    March 19th, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    Someone above mentioned a prediction of the world being hit in May 2003 by a comet or an asteroid… so what about that comet that was bigger that Jupiter that nearly took it out, throwing us into oblivion as well, (February 23, 2003). Except according to Nassim Haramein’s video which he claims to have downloaded from NASA website, a huge solar flare pushed it out of its course. Just did my homework and I guess it did happen. Apparently what we weren’t told is that had it hit Jupiter, or whatever other planet it was going to hit, or even had passed where it was supposed to before it was pushed of course, it would have caused major disturbance in the gravitational field of our planet…. anyways http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/neat_soho_030218.html
    Som
    Lots of theories flying around. Who’s covering up what?
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nassim+haramein+comet+feb+2003&aq=f

  80. brian Says:
    April 9th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    i know that no special planetary alignment will occur in 2012, and that there’s nothing yet to indicate a meteor or comet collision with earth, but the fact remains that the center of the galaxy will be aligned with the sun during the winter solstice of 2012

    now, i understand that the added effects of gravity of the galactic equator would be negligible, and thus a situation similar to peak of high tides coinciding with new moons is not going to occur due to this alignment…

    however, what about the possibility that the alignment of the galactic center with the ecliptic possibly creating a situation where gravitational lensing due to the sun of light from the galactic center comes into focus on that date, creating a situation similar to when you burn a piece of paper with a magnifying glass on a sunny day?

    do you know of anyone who has done the math and come up with any kind of evidence that some catastrophe couldn’t arise from something like that? i mean really, if this type of scenario was the case, it could also be a reason for global warming (fact of the matter is that the globe has been warming since the last age, but that’s another discussion) as we come nearer and nearer to being in focus?

    very interested to hear what anyone thinks abou this…

  81. shane Says:
    April 11th, 2010 at 1:22 am

    that end of the world thing is just bullcrap

  82. Stacy Says:
    April 18th, 2010 at 3:14 am

    What the hell are all of you going to find to be terrified of when December 22, 2012 arrives? While a large percentage of the human race will be working on their next big hoax or conspiricy theory that morning, I will be sitting at my kitchen table eating a bowl of Captain Crunch cereal and laughing my ass off wondering what these people will come up with next.
    Maybe some of the world’s “so called” leading scholars should start figuring out a way to save our polar ice caps from melting or perhaps a way stop the destruction of the world’s only rain forest. Or maybe even an effective way to win the war on terror and somehow acheive world peace, instead of wasting their time answering a bunch of “Oooooooh I’m so scared” posts. These are being posted by people who, I believe will continue to believe that all of mankind will perish on December 21, 2012 no matter how many facts or how much reassurance is set before them. They thrive on being scared and having something to worry & fret about all the time. Sort of the same way people who participate in extreme sports thrive on the adrenaline rush.
    If this country’s great scholars & professors are notinterested in finding a way to solve the “very real” problems like saving the some of the world’s most endagered species or how to preservie the rain forests for future generations to come , then maybe they could simply work on figuring out how to fix the traffic congested, crumbling old, traffic congested, commuter nightmares from hell, that we call freeways here in Southern California. (There may even be a Pulitzer Prize in for someone!)
    Besides - it makes no difference what anyone posts on any internet blog whether it’s from a 12 year old boy with a terrified 9 year old sister or the opinion of rocket scientist from NASA because if the end truly does come in Dec 2012 there will be no one left to read these blogs anyway.
    Now turn off your computers and find something more productive to do!!

  83. yok Says:
    April 21st, 2010 at 6:14 am

    Scary very It is true In 2012

  84. Sasha Says:
    May 9th, 2010 at 5:42 am

    Things to suggest the end of the world is upon us out there on the internet can be very persuasive and has had me worried a few times. But at the end of the day Nasa are incredibly smart and are amazing at what they do so I have no reason to doubt them. I just wish they would make a TV broadcast around the world to put people’s mind’s at ease and to prove that all of the fake accusations really are fake!

    Nasa RULES!!! :)

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  87. JJ8 Says:
    May 27th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    In my opinion i think one thing is certain. even if the government and nasa new about a devistating catasrophe they would tell anyone. human kind wouldnt know what to do. it would put too much pressure on govts all over the world and everyone would seek for some sort of spiritual advice. The governments protocall is DENIAL. Atleast the Vatican admitted in 2008 that there is alien intelligence…….. I dont beleive that the world will end on that date, but there will be a drastic climate change that will cause traumatic global events.

  88. Cayetano Vázquez Blázquez Says:
    May 30th, 2010 at 11:49 am

    I have read, by chance, your comment: 2012 - A Scientific Reality Check on the blog: http://blogs.jpl.nasa.gov/?paged=2 and, on this matter I have nothing to say. But in that reference you literally writes:

    Each December the Earth and Sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence.”

    I had the idea that the Earth is aligned with the Sun and the center of the Milky Way Galaxy in the months of March and September.

    Apparently I was wrong.

    Consequently, also I have difficulty locating the “first point of Aries” from the center of the Milky Way Galaxy.

    Can you tell me references (or do it yourself) on how to know which is the movement of the Earth about the Sun in the Galaxy during an annual period?

    Thanks in advance.

  89. Jennifer Says:
    June 2nd, 2010 at 10:36 am

    I finally realized that on Dec 21, 2012 nothing will happen except for the Mayan’s will celebrate a new cycle to their calendar. I realized the Mayan’s didn’t predict the end of the world and people interpreted it to be the end. Is that true? I was wondering why the History Channel keeps broadcasting bad stuff about 2012 and why so many people believe it? Could NASA broadcast and air a show to prove nothing will happen and prove people wrong, especially the ones that believe it. I don’t understand why the History Channel would be allowed to air shows like that. The world has been predicted to end over 300 times and we are still here. There are future predictions to the end coming up in future years and it doesn’t make sense. People need to worry about obesity, global warming & war on terrorism instead of foolishness!!

  90. Enci Says:
    June 2nd, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    What about the galactic conjunction?There’re a lot tv programme about 2012… There is a Mayan Calendar,Nostradamus in it and so on..Some people says, Nasa doesn’t want panic,and say nothing about this thing.
    I really care about this,I mean It’s really interesting,and I would like to know what’s in fact.

  91. Enci Says:
    June 2nd, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    The History Channel is really fearful for so many people…

  92. Autooloan Says:
    June 6th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    I am pleased with your blog, I think we have a lot in common. I’ll go to you on more often.

  93. Lisa Says:
    June 8th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    ok so i was working the other day and some guy just made me so upset with what he said.. he thinks this will happen, but after reading this… im relieved..but he mentioned something how police or some sort of security people are watching over this building or place that have every single kind of seed in it for when 2012 is sappose to happen..yada yadda.. then he says something about 270 something thousands of years ago it happend and before that another 270 something thousand years that happend.. and he said something about this is the 270 thousandth year.. is he lieing to me? bcs im confused about where that info came from.. and also when i was watching the history channel i saw a commercial come on saying something about theres this place they are building for people for when its sappose to come… why would they do that? just wondering if anyone can answer those questions… im so sick of hearing from people and tv that the worlds gonna end… thats like all i think about.. its really stressing me out, wheather or not i should wait until 2012 has passed to have more children.. can anyone answer where this guys getting this crappy information!

  94. Brainwashed Says:
    June 9th, 2010 at 3:16 am

    You are all brain washed. But you will make good servents to the New World Order!

  95. Elena Says:
    June 27th, 2010 at 6:50 am

    Dearest D. Yoemens,

    What you have stated is not entirely true!

    Reality is defined and reality is spontaneous.

    From which side of the see saw and from which position on that side do you think thee preaches?

    Jet wonderg

  96. kimi Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:15 am

    what happened to the theories of dr. harrington?

  97. kimi Says:
    July 1st, 2010 at 11:18 am

    i had seen a video made by dr. harrington in the year 1990 . but later one he had a suspicious death in the year 1993. the new york times also published about this planet-x saying that there is something heading towards the earth. but later on they never made that news come out.

  98. dick Says:
    August 1st, 2010 at 12:39 am

    why is a section of the stars hidden from us on google earth i think you must know what i am talking bout

  99. dick Says:
    August 1st, 2010 at 12:41 am

    i think we just want the truth this has been happenig for millions of years why is it so hard to believe that it may be the earths cycle happening in our life time?

  100. Grey Says:
    August 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am

    I wish that i could totally believe this. No matter what i read about the falsities of the doomsday predictions in 2012, i cant shake the feeling that something bad is going to happen then. The sudden activity of the sun that started a few days ago is sort of what spurred this worry in me that solar flares and CMEs will bring about the end of the world in 2012. Im 14 and i am really worried that i won’t be able to enjoy a full life because of the end of humanity. Any updated solar activity charts that include the beginning of this new cycle 24 would be appreciated so i can somewhat reassure myself

  101. Otto Says:
    August 15th, 2010 at 8:00 am

    Many people believe that by 2012 this rumor, but also worry end of the world, but I can rest assured that this

  102. ruby bean Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    hi just like to say 2012 is nothing but a HOAX poeple trying to make money when 2012 gone and still here there will be other crap perdtion HISTORY CHANNEL AND DISCYORY CHANNEL ARE SICK JUST GET FEW BUCKS BY SCARING CHILDERN YOU MAKE ME SICK thank goods for poeple like nasa and other snice websites thank you telling the truth dont worry kids you can trust theese guys ok

  103. Vichard Says:
    August 30th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    However,some reports & books say that some special astronomical events will occur
    in 2012.
    They say maybe some celestial bodies will permutate into a line and the sun will become the core of Milky Way Galaxy.I don not know weather that is ture or not.But, if it does really happen.Do NASN will kown the influence to our planet?
    Some people say that means some huge earthquakes will occur just like in the movie.
    And some people say The Mayan is wery good at astronmy . Their calendar is more exact than ours.Maybe they are right.
    But I believe science. Who knows? Time will prove it.

  104. Steve Ward Says:
    September 8th, 2010 at 3:08 am

    About Donald Yeomans, 1) NASA saying nothing will happen on 2012, that is just as bad as the people that say something will happen. Fact is, unless you can tell the future (I doubt it) Mr. Yeomans cant say what may become of it. 2) He failed to mention the Solar Storm Warning that NASA themselves issued. This warning itself was on FoxNews along with a physicist that was worried about our power grid going down as a result of a solar flare which is a noted possibility given the 11 year solar cycle. 3) If there was something headed our way does anyone really think the public would be informed? No! It would cause chaos, panic in the streets and increased crime. In other words complete anarchy. Do not forget people NASA is part of the US government. They can be told to shut up and keep it classified.
    4) Concerning NEOs The threat would not be an asteroid that is 6 miles long. They are aware of alot of the asteroids and so we would have a greater warning time to prepare. More worrisome is a comet or meteor. As our warning time would be short. They have NOT found all these objects that could head our way. 5) End of the Earth…I doubt it. More likely would be a change to our way of life. A polar shift is a possibility but when….who knows. It is a FACT that the Earth has had polar shifts in the past and we are over due for one. In the past it has been approximately every 200,000 years. This would explain the decrease in the Earth’s magnetic shield.
    The Myans were excellent in astronomy and time keeping. Just that fact the could predict solar cycles so far in advance (with out computers) should get people’s attention. And finally…there are people that use 2012 as a money maker ($100 dollars for a survival guide) and there are people that say nothing will happen to keep from causing a panic. Keep both those things in mind when you read the info on this 2012 theory.

  105. gus Says:
    September 16th, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    the world is changing rapidly the ozone layer is growing! earthquakes around the world are getting stronger and more frequent. examples- chile, haiti, new zealand, 2012 might be a new begining ! for the mayan calender, maybe that new begining might be without the human race. dont forget everybody !the ice capes are melting faster ! the arctic iceshelves are breaking away in bigger chunks! the tempature around the world has gone up one degree! the pollution and oil spills worldwide are out of control ! scientists are learning a great deal about our future from our distant past, and if this world keeps heading forward at this pace with third world countrys having no regulations on greenhouse gasses, and countrys like china get the majority of the people buying cars. we are bound to repeat whatever catastrophic past our ancesters experienced!!!

  106. Mike Gilliam Says:
    September 22nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    The insanity of the human race is all we have to fear on 12-21-2012 or any other day for that matter. People getting whipped-up into a craze and then doing harm their fellow man fighting over the last bottle of water, or gallon of gas at your local convience store is a real possibilty. “The delievery truck will be there tommorow to restock the shelves” !!! :)

  107. Stacey Says:
    October 11th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    I think the whole 2012 theory’s are all extremely hard to make an appropriate judgment on if you are like me and are not a scientist or someone with immediate academic information available. We are i’n the unfortunate position where we must study conflicting ideas and ‘evidence’ from both ends to come up with our own conclusions. Both sides can give reasons on why they think something bad is going to happen or not… Using numbers and scientific wording which I cannot judge as fact or credible based on my lack of knowledge about space, solar flares, etc. What I do know is there is no harm i’n preparing yourself incase something happens. Maybe sync with your family and friends a meeting spot incase of an emergency wether it be from warfare, environmental threats or whatever. It never hurts to store some extra canned food with a long shelf life and nothing wrong with hoarding bottles of water. Nothing wrong with expanding your knowledge about how to live without electricity or basic first aid procedures. At least if anything did happen and a threat was announced you will be ready. :)

  108. Jim Owens Says:
    November 19th, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Hi. I don’t know to whom to report this, but I saw a very unusual object, appearing to be a rocket, headed up and southwest from Cabo San Lucas, BCS, Mexico tonight at about 8:40pm local time. It had a sweeping trajectory, curving south from southwest, with a wide trailer which looked as if it were illuminated, but that may have been from the lights of Cabo San Lucas reflecting on it. I have a VERY grainy video taken with my small Kodak digital camera, which I would be happy to share with anyone who is interested.
    Is anyone at NASA interested in this?
    Jim Owens 2010-11-19 20:59 Cabo San Lucas Time

  109. Jim Owens Says:
    November 19th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    The above-reported object was moving VERY fast, in my judgement, too fast to be a private jet.
    Jim Owens

  110. Theguywhoknewtoolittle Says:
    November 23rd, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    shields are down, lights are going out, (but not in December of 2012) unless you’re smart and care about this beautiful planet of ours (like you should) you’re already solar powered/geo thermal energy ready. Costly to most and just a dream to many. Worlds not ever going to end dummy, get used to it. who survives tho is another question. get yourself ready for any type of situation: food, medical, etc. You know the deal, and try to have it last up to 3 months if possible. I know its asking alot from any day to day normal joe but its very important for any type of disaster. Fictional OR real. Water, military rations are very cheap and can be found at any army surplus type store. Get create and think comfortable stuff,you might be cooped up for awhile! The best point i can make is, you’re a human being. If you have to rely on something or someone to inform you of every little thing for you to live your life then you’ve already lost and you never had a chance to begin with.

  111. Theguywhoknewtoolittle Says:
    November 23rd, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Oh and regarding the 2012 movie…. John Cusak? come on, really… John Boosak is more like it.

  112. Really Says:
    December 28th, 2010 at 7:18 am

    What am I going to tell the guys at ihavepredicted. Do you have proof that these things will not happen ?
    No….. Phew you had me all worried for a minute.

  113. trace Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    im realy sceared about 2012 can someone just tell me somthing to fee; better.i was playing a game called ac brother hood and it said about temples that are there incase it did happen it would shelter humanity and is the temples real just tell me the trruth yes or no…………………?

  114. trace Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:46 am

    tell me will the world end im realy sceared i just want to be with my familey for ever im just real sceared?

  115. one one Says:
    January 9th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    It’s hard to belive ,the planet x exist,with this traiectory,according to the Cappler law, the sun is in the center ant the planets with their eliptic traiectory ,come around. Can this panet make this traiectory ,the sun according to the belivers ,stay in one side of the traiectory.
    But scientis should give more fact to the pubblic.But planet x exist according to some scientist papers.In 1983 ,i remember that this planet is discovered by moving of Uran and neptun regular orbits.
    sorry for my english!

  116. Vincent Says:
    January 10th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    What truly amazes me is the potential for the average human being to believe without question extraordinary facts that are straight out of some other’s imagination without any sort of proof, while at the same time, those people will easily admit ignorance on many subjects, and even feel the need to touch that bench on which a sign says “wet paint” just to be sure that it’s true…

    Seriously, concerns like that Chris Traynor raises (post #9) make sense, however, would that be true, what else can we all do about it? I mean, this is quite a philosophical question, is it better to know that your doom awaits you and you can do nothing to avoid it, or is it better to ignore that fact and go on with your everyday life?

    Another thing that must strike everyone: if any brown dwarf like the one that would be threatening us would be heading towards earth, not only NASA or ESA, or any “professionals” would have been noticing it. Hundreds and thousands of amateur astronomeurs would have had spotted it already.

    That being said, and as I “believe” (or rather “know”) that nothing extraordinary will happen Dec 21st 2012 (just the winter solstice, heh like every year), I’m very impatient to come back to those people who predicted the end of the world for that day, on the next day! Just like those who foresaw it in 2000, in 1999, in … etc.

  117. Jim Wimberly Says:
    January 11th, 2011 at 10:02 am

    So… how do you feel about the movie Knowing…. with the sun eruption?

  118. John Richter Says:
    February 9th, 2011 at 8:07 am

    Nothing will happen on 21 12 12. As long as you all pay the carbon tax. It will not only get the North Atlantic gulf stream flowing again and stop the northern hemisphere from freezing over completely, it will also stop the north pole on Mars from melting.
    And as a bonus in Australia if you pay an additional 1% tax the gov will stop any future Cat 6 cyclones. Very cool. Everything is normal and the Mayans were insane olden day freaks.
    D.Nile

  119. ShadowRUe Says:
    February 24th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    i still gonna sit here and wonder about the solar storm warning that NASA put out not too long ago. I saw the news. whats up man?

  120. Rochelle 36, Australia Says:
    March 5th, 2011 at 6:11 am

    I was sitting on the computer tonight reading and whatching all the information on “doomsday” 2012 and yes i will admit i was feeling kinda sick to my stomach about the whole thing untill…i stumbled across “scientific reality check” i was so grateful for this new knowledge!!..thankyou so much for making sense out of all this nonsence..i was thinking my family and i would have to move to darwin and live underground, now i know its fake we can keep our home on the coast, relax and live quite happily (jokes)..thanks nasa!!!, please get this information out to everyone its unfair to unsettle and scare people.

    kind regards from down under

  121. Von Helton Says:
    March 7th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Yeah, RIGHT! There is no Planet X. There is something far worst, and it’s coming for us all, and you know it. You see, we the people are not in tune with the real truth, we are in tune with what we have been told is the truth by NASA, and JPL. But, we have something called the Bible and it tells us so. In God we trust. Doesn’t it say that on the dollar bill, you know the dollar bills that you waste some much time and time again, thinking up new ideas to pull the wool over our eyes.

    This universe is Gods stage, and now is the time for the curtain to come down.

    AMEN.

  122. jalen franklin Says:
    March 9th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    i was so wared becous thay sed the word was gon to end in 2012 thank you

  123. tony vernon Says:
    March 9th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    I have been reading and learning about apophis 2004MN4 since 2004. The close shave in 2012 is nothing compared to how close it will come on April 13th 2029.
    All the above posts are well and good but the one last question remains……..If this was going to hit earth either now (Or again later if it passes through the keyhole) The government nor NASA would let the public know - It would not be “Beneficial”.

  124. risa Says:
    March 12th, 2011 at 1:02 am

    I dont want to believes bout doomsday on 21 12 2012, but right now im scared not for my self but to my siblings.When i read this information from NASA its kind a relief for me..

  125. kaylee09 Says:
    March 16th, 2011 at 8:08 am

    if an asteroid was on route to earth, wouldnt it be covered up for the sake of mass panic? I mean how can we be sure that this is the truth?

  126. marianoport Says:
    March 18th, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    segun escuche yo la nasa logra identificar un objeto que se dirige a la tierra muchos años antes que se produzca el suceso. o sea si un objeto viene a la tierra ya lo sabriamos hace mucho tiempo

  127. Holly Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 6:17 am

    Hi! I am really terrified and I need to know if its true or not. HELP

  128. Smarty pants Says:
    April 2nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    I have been researchin alot about earth science recently because of the terrible earthquake that occured in Japan last month- To be honest after hearing about all the deaths i started to question my own fate in 2012! After careful consideration, i came up with my own conclusion……..

    I personally do not think the world is gonna end any time soon, or i sure hope it wont! No man, woman or creature can determine or predict a doomsday, i got proof;
    1. They have attempted to PREDICT the end of the world numerous times and failed- the first “doomsday prophecy” i remember was in the 1980’s and then there was the millenium year 2000, then 5months later when there was an actual alignmnt of the planet in our solar system……
    BUT WE SURVIVED!! THE WORLD DIDNT END!!!!!!!

    2. Earthquakes, Tsunamis, Volcanos have occured for as long as time itself and will continue to do so for billions of years to come!! ; Earthquakes are a way that the earth forms new crust, and unfortunately Tsunamis are a result of these colitions!

    3. Notradamus NEVER actually predicted that anything would happen in 2012, nor did the Mayans, their calendar simply ended; just like the gregorian calendar ends every year on 31st December.

    4. The magnetic polar shift is gona happen, but it will not take a day for the poles to reverse, and certainly wont happen 21/12/12. it will take more like 5000 years, its a gradual thing, its actally doing it now as i type this reply!

    Now with all that said,,, im not a expect scientist or an astrologist but i do have a bit of common sense and hope that I will live past the age of 16…. but u never know we could all be dead tommorow!!! ;-)

  129. Reuben Says:
    April 16th, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=1;log=0;cad=1#cad

  130. Reuben Says:
    April 16th, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    Not saying end of world, just posted stuff from Nasa site some call it Planet Elenin - Nibiru

    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-guest.html

  131. Pedro Says:
    April 17th, 2011 at 5:32 am

    Very strange that the comments herein are getting rare!!

    Everybody can feel the upcoming events.

    Dont close your ears and eyes.

    Watch the fireline. ( volcanos )

    Next big eruptions and earthquakes will hit some big cities. ( in : Mexico, Iran, Usa )

    I hope, that yellowstone will fall asleep again!!!

    Google sky: Typ Sirius A then zoom in. You will see a hidden area like made with Photoshop…..why then???

    Look around Comet Elenin ….. you can also find a big hidden area!!!!!

    What are they not showing us????

    Have a nice time,

    Pedro

  132. Mark Jensen Says:
    April 21st, 2011 at 12:29 am

    Someone has been locked up behind a telescope for too long….the Mayan calendar DOES end on that date….

  133. Jake Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 7:53 am

    http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1104.2036

    thats proof right there… from Cornell university…

  134. Orbisalas Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Yo creo que toda esta fantasía que se ha creado en torno a Tiche Nibiru, el fin de los tiempos para 2012, alineación con el centro de la Galaxia, el cometa Elenin, y otros misterios de catalismos o colisiones cósmicas, en un invento que a algunos les permite comer un poco mejor, y acumular una pequeña fortuna, asustando a las masas que no entienden las cuestiones astronómicas. Tengo mucha confianza en la NASA, con sus equipos de científicos y astrónomos, bien equipados, como para temer a esos fantasmas cósmicos inventados con fines de promover blogs y páginas web. Este es un negocio que está afectando a mucha gente, y enriqueciendo a muy pocos. Espero tranquilo el 21.12.2012 para que se termine esta farsa, y ver con qué continúan metiendo miedo para cobrar.

  135. stooge Says:
    May 1st, 2011 at 11:11 am

    basically this commet lined up with earth and the sun on 2 days that we had big earth quakes.
    and its getting closer,.
    rather than ridicule, how about you load up the JPL orbit tracker and check out the facts.
    its all there.

    and plz tell me what is the mass of this elenin comet.

  136. I read it is 2.5 times the mass of the planet Jupiter. That is enough mass to have considerable impact on our crust and on bodies of water. Some of these past earthquakes have occured when Elenin was close to 6000 AU from our planet, and in Sept this ob Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    I read it is 2.5 times the mass of the planet Jupiter. That is enough mass to have considerable impact on our crust and on our bodies of water on our planet. Some of these past earthquakes have occurred when Elenin was close to 6000 AU from our planet, and in Sept this object be it comet or brown dwarf, (do you really think something with the mass of 2.5 times the planet of Jupiter should be called a “comet”?) will be under 0.6 AU from our planet, not to mention we have to cross over the path it takes across our normal rotational pattern around the sun exposing us to run into whatever deposits or space debris it leaves in it’s trail. Any large debris could theoretically enter our atmosphere at this point and descend it’s way to earth in a fiery meteor type of entry causing cataclysmic destruction on impact as the debris hits the earth. Just speculating…….it has happened before, likely when this object object came around years ago, (again just speculating), remember the huge impact crater in the Yucatan peninsula which has been thought to be the cause of the extinction of the dinosaurs. These things do happen. We’re just cruising along our path like a car cruising down the highway and all of a sudden a deer pops out in front of you and BAM!! What can you do? Like the movie Armageddon with Bruce Willis going out to save the planet with a nuclear detonation to break up the asteroid or meteorite or whatever it was. Why do you think HAARP and the Navy has been conducting tests outside the Florida coast? Are they trying to come up with some magical electromagnetic type of energy field or sonic or microwave broadcast that is going to break up and shield the globe from these type of items? Check out the “weird thunder” videos all over the web in March. Also if it hasn’t already peaked any biblical correlations, try reading Revelations Chapter 8 Vs 10, describing the third angel blew his trumpet, and a huge star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky and came down…….hmmmm…blazing torch,…huge star…. sounds kind of like a big comet or star….. right? I would take heed, and like any investing in an insurance policy I would seriously consider the “value ” of your soul and acquire some coverage, if you know what I mean, it’s not like its not affordable, the premium has already been paid! Have faith! A new world is about to become a reality! Again, just speculating…. or am I? What do you think? Or what do you FEEL is happening? Now IS the time to ask….or TELL!

  137. Mayan Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    America is very young country. If every piece of history needs scientific “proof” then please explain why there in this modern history no one can build a pyramid of Giza? When 8000 BC Vedic manuscripts describes nine planets, where was the science? NASA found out that Jupiter is the biggest planet? When Vedic scripts explains Jupiter or Brahaspathi or Guru means in sanscrit ‘Big’ ‘Heavy’.

    If everything need proof then whey you are still following Christianity and believe in Jesus and Bible? Please show us the proof who is the auther or Bible? Do we have a DNA sample? Where is the “lost city of Atlantic?” was it real? Can NASA guide us with scientific proof?

    There are something out there that is more powerful than human kind or any life on planet. It is called “Mother Nature”. Mayan calendar is advanced, way advance at the time, they follow Venus cycle, which is 8 year cycle in their calendar. And when did NASA find out that? After America learned how not to eat each other in 1700’s?

    Let’s not challenge the power of nature. Whether doomsday is true or false time will proove us. You or nobody can ask Nature to show scientific proof. But if you alone want to follow only science that is fine too. It is your choice. Time will tell…

    Mayan

  138. Cosmos Kramer Says:
    May 3rd, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Consider this: Atlantis was a sunken city or great civilization as seen in visions of psychics. They may have truly seen vivid images in their minds…great roads… buildings… even evidence of air travel..like planes, or even objects they did not understand what they were, to them it was just “an advanced civilization” which had succumbed to earth changes. Perhaps what they placed as in the past was not the correct time placement of what they saw in the visions. Since they couldn’t imagine building what they had “seen” in their time, and not anytime in the near future, they just assumed it was a lost civilization of the past. But in reality, they had truly seen the lost city of Atantis but it was not from the past, what they were envisioning was actually the future, and that future is now, for the sunken civilizations are our great cites seen underwater. Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco, buried deep under the oceans as the earthquakes of this year occur, and the oceans and land masses shift to the new geological and geographical positions.
    Dates to prepare:
    May 21st, 2011 - planetary alignment of all planets in inner solar system, Earth, Venus , Mars, and Mercury, excluding the sun.
    September 25th 2011 - Elenin comes in between the sun and our planet Earth at a distance of 0.401 AU from Earth. This could even perhaps cause a solar eclipse. Last time Earth aligned with the sun and Elenin was Mar 11, 2011, the day of the earthquake in Japan, and then the distance was over 2 AU from Elenin to Earth.
    October 17, 2011 - This is the closest Elenin comes to earth. 0.232 AU. That is less then a quarter of the distance to the sun, a planetary object thought to be 2.5 times the mass of Jupiter. That is just terrific, right? Talk about having a bad day!
    November 3, 2011 - Planet earth crosses over the orbiting path of Elenin at 0.356 AU from the death star. Oops, what did I say? Oh well. Time will tell. Just keep in mind that this thing has its own orbitals, or moons so crossing into its path will be like playing planetary Russian Roulette!!! Ha Ha!!!
    If you can make it pass these dates consider yourself a survivor, for that is what you must prepare to be. If you’re smart and plan to be a survivor plan now accordingly. No electricity, no gas, no cars, or trucks, or passable roads, no tap water, no food from commercial outlets. What do you do? Start researching lists now. For starters I think I’m going to buy and will be wearing a hard hat, AND a life vest (PFD-personal flotation device) for the next six months at all times. HA!

  139. nero Says:
    May 4th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    my opinion i think even if nibiru was to make a pass on earth no one would warn us not til its too late then what are we going to do. the only reason why they do not tel us because it will cause world wide panic on a big scale, riots, pilfering you name it, it will happen. the american goverment are all prepared, for whats coming they just wont tell you. ever heard of population control by the illuminati and did you know that nasa arent owned by the goverment they are owned by the banks and who then owns the banks THE ILLUMINATI. AMERICA BE WARNED DONT FALL FOR THE LIES AND FALSE FLAGS OF YOUR GOVERMENT YOU ARE BEING DECIEVED RIGHT UNDER .
    YOUR NOSES AND YOU DONT EVEN KNOW IT. THEYVE GOT THE TECHNOLOGY THEY JUST DONT WANT US TO HAVE IT BECAUSE THEY CASH IN ON OUR TAXES WE PAY AND CASH IN ON THE OIL THEY STEAL FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRYS. AMERICAS GOVERMENT ARE THE TERRORISTS NOT THE EAST.

  140. The Elenin, 2012 and Global Warming Delusions | PolyMontana Says:
    May 6th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    [...] also has an answer to alarmist claims that December 2012 will be an astronomical [...]

  141. Cosmos Kramer Says:
    May 10th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    2.5 times the mass of Jupiter or an wimpy little ice ball? Who are really to believe? Even if it was a brown dwarf, why should scientists/NASA/government release info just to panic the public into chaos when nothing can be done. We really don’t know until more amateur astronomers put out the real evidence or “time will tell.”

  142. Jerry Roy Says:
    May 12th, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    Does Comet Elenin exist or not and if it does, how close does it come to earth and what day?

  143. narelle Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:39 am

    Judgement Day now due in October 21 2011 is this true

  144. Cosmos Kramer Says:
    May 31st, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Approximately Sept 25th is the day when the comet Elenin comes in between the Sun and Earth. The days surrounding this event are those most likely to bring more earthquakes like that of Japan, if previous alignments are proof of anything. Another day to watch is Oct 17th when the comet comes closest to Earth at 0.233 Astronomical Units, roughly less than a quarter of the distance from Earth to Sun. If this is a planet or brown dwarf this is when things can get ugly, as the Earth assimilates to Elenin’s mass and gravitational effects of being so close, as Elenin starts moving away it could pull the Earth’s crust towards it much like a magnet can pull specs of iron particulate shavings in a grade school science experiment. I must admit, this does fall in line perfectly with Harold Campings day of the final end. It is then possible later into Nov when Earth passes into the orbit path of Elenin that stray comet debris could happen to be rammed into by Earth or the Earth’s gravitational forces grab a hold of any stray comet debris and draw it into our planet. Blah blah blah it’s all speculation of course! What do I know, I’m just Cosmos Kramer!

  145. JB Says:
    June 1st, 2011 at 6:48 am

    According to all i have researched from JPL it does exist or at least has lay for the existance of it, and it will come within 22.72 mill. miles of earth, .02 au.

  146. AF Says:
    June 7th, 2011 at 6:53 am

    Does this mean no zombies?

  147. Rogelio Says:
    June 7th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    sending this right now to my tween
    She likes and enjoys science and she’s aware of things, but she is getting a lot of peer pressure from her crazy middle school friends. I talk to her and present evidence of how the earth has survived in the past and how this prediction is coming like 1 billion years early!

    Kids are very vulnerable to this type of things!

  148. bodhi Says:
    June 7th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    “There are no credible predictions for worrisome astronomical events in 2012.”

    Great Don, but how about talking about this Fall? Any opinions on the fact that starting this Fall and continuing until 2012 we’ll be encountering not only C/2010 X1 (Elenin) but TWO other comets …

    COMET 45P/HONDA
    closest to Earth on August 18, 2011 at .0766au. Honda comes close to Earth again on February 13, 2016 at .0677au (closer to Earth than in 2011). Honda is estimated to be 1 mile in diameter.

    and

    6) COMET P/2006 T7 (LEVY) is closest to Earth on January 7, 2012 at .453au. Levy comes close to Earth again and is at its closest for exactly 6 days straight on April 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 2017 at 1.399au. Levy is estimated to be 1.2 miles in diameter.

    three Comets, Don, not one. All on very close approaches to the Earth

    and let’s not forget three asteroids -

    ASTEROID 2005 GO21 is closest to Earth on June 22, 2012 at .442au.

    ASTEROID 4179 TOUTATIS is closest to Earth on December 12, 2012 at .0503au. Toutatis comes close to Earth again and is at its closest for exactly 4 days straight on December 25, 26, 27, 28, 2016 at .207au. Toutatis is estimated to be 2.8 miles by 1.5 miles wide.

    and

    ASTEROID 2005 YU55 is closest to Earth on November 9, 2011 at .0022au. 2005 YU55 is expected to cross between the orbit of Moon and the Earth.
    This places C/2010 X1 (Comet Elenin) about 23 million miles on one side of the Earth and Asteroid 2005 YU55 will be 202,000 miles on the other side of us. Can anyone spell “Tug-Of-War”??
    2005 YU55 is estimated to be 1300 feet in diameter.

    Seems like you guys at JPL have your work cut out for you this Fall

    And Don, could you please explain the odd behavior we see in C/2010 X1 (Elenin)?

    Like why is C/2010 X1 (Elenin) on the same orbital plane as the Earth?
    Usually comets with a very long period are not in the same plane as our solar system’s planets. Their orbits come in either above or below the plane which explains the fact that these bodies were travelers coming in from any random direction before they were captured by our sun’s gravity.
    But C/2010 X1 (Elenin) is IN that very same plane as the Earth - as if it’s been a part of our solar system from the very beginning……
    One other thing - C/2010 X1 (Elenin) comes from beyond our solar system. Every other comet, including Kohoutek, has come from within the Oort Cloud.. C/2010 X1 (Elenin) comes from so far away that its orbital path isn’t even completed on the JPL site!
    Interesting ….

    Thanks Don and JPL

  149. 5000years? Says:
    June 16th, 2011 at 8:43 am

    I’ve seen repeatedly posted, “it will take about 5000 yrs. for the magnetic poles to reverse”. This is utter nonsense. They are where they are and will be until they are not. At that moment, in the blink of an eye, they will be switched. It doesn’t take any time for anything to happen. Leading up to it, it hasn’t happened. If you want to insist it takes 5000 yrs. to happen, perhaps it started happening 4999 yrs. ago.

  150. Blooadangel Says:
    June 20th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    See above, after the article:
    “This entry was posted on Tuesday, November 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pm”

    And now look at this link:
    http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroidwatch/newsfeatures.cfm?release=2011-135

    it is very confusing, if NASA speaks out a official Warning @10. June this year, while a Object called elenin in the simulation, comes into our solar system.
    It is also interesting, why is there no image from the elenin comet done, but there is a perfect path tracking simulation on the NASA page. With this Simulation, the Object is now in our solarsystem, but absolut no Images arround?!?

    No Picture but all things are public on the NASA Page itself. The Question is, who makes here the real fun? NASA or the non-educated ppl?

    Honestly, is fearing ppl the new modern style of kidding ppl? From NASA itself? To who should i trust now?

  151. BennettAK907 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    If you bring “Christianity” or the “Bible” into any part of your post, anybody with a true factual/scientific stand point instantly stops reading your bull and moves onto the next one.. so just stop.

  152. darkhorse Says:
    June 27th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    I have two questions
    1.elenin does that stand for extinction level event nibiru is near?
    2.comet elenin comes really close on dec 31st 2011 @ 0.07au,i think it will hit earth what your look on it?

  153. Volma Says:
    June 29th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Interesting, I don’t buy into the fear munging Niburu poll shift 2012 stuff, even before I read your blog. I came to this conclusion by looking at the sources of information and what actual credible information is actually out there to substantiate this.
    Having said this, I also have come to understand that agencies such as NASA are participating in disinformation on many levels. The author may or may not be aware of the facts but if he isn’t I suggest he may question information that looks very much like NASA news articles and what can one think when the URL is undeniably NASA. Are you people getting click jacked by hackers who can do the impossible, by duplicating a legit NASA URL exactly as if you were on their site? How does that work?
    I don’t think NASA is a impeccable source of truth and science information, I know it’s not too.For many years now a couple of your retired high profile astronauts have declared in public that NASA has not been truthful about the UFO phenomenon for ever it seems.
    I question odd news releases in the past, by Nasa describing an object, large one at the edge of our solar system a few years back. It was ominous, mysterious, and really opened up a lot of speculation and was used as fact that Nasa was hiding and covering up something here. This smelled to me as deliberate misinformation, psyop, that I think Nasa has played on and off with for years. I believe what you say to be true, and I don’t think there is much to this pole shift planet alignment, Niburu, comet, end of the world scenario, except it spreads misinformation and fear. And it seems that once some one is attached to it, they won’t budge with any logic, proof reason or common sense arguments. It doesn’t help that underground bunkers have been really built up by the government for years, and there is factual proof evidence of it which just adds to speculations and paranoia because it’s done very quietly behind the scenes away from the public eye. The new age, poll shift cult is set up so tightly just like radical religions, to make you paranoid and believe that anyone who denies it are brainwashed manipulated by Nasa or those who really know, just like trying to argue with a brainwashed fanatical religious zealot, any thing you may say is actually the devil working through you to get their very souls. But that doesn’t dissuade me from knowledge that Nasa is not impeccable or truthful when it comes to information or disinformation. I question their part in this craziness, despite your article, you are only one tiny portion of Nasa, serving more than one purpose in information forming opinions and so on. I am sure you are aware at least of the little part you play, and not a total clueless employee drone, but who knows…I don’t claim to know much of anything for a fact, but I am not blind deaf and dumb, have great recall and have the power of reason and discernment that aids me! All is not transparent open and beyond reproach in Nasa or our government in general, if it really were, there would be much less to be paranoid or speculate about…:D

  154. Sol Invictus Says:
    July 1st, 2011 at 8:18 am

    The truth is pretty simple despite NASA clumsy attempts to seed confusion.

    70% of our Galaxy’s solar systems are binary stars systems (says.. you got it). Nasa admitted very recently in a candid video that they were pretty sure we were in one… no kidding.

    Folks, indeed our Sun has a companion (Brown Dwarf) lurking out there on some orbit (elliptical). It’s been driving the social, spiritual, political history of mankind and civilisations for countless ages. That is have been at the heart of most secret societies throughout time and the implications are just mind boggling. Just think about it in the context of duality. When the Sol’s Dark twin gets close, humanity is always peaking in great turmoil. When it leaves our vicinity, humanity start licking its wounds and starts anew. There goes the proverbial Golden Age of peace longed by spiritual/religious traditions all over Earth.

    Tell us NASA about the truth behind:
    The 1983 announcement
    The Harrington / Sitchin story
    The end of the space flight missions
    The real purpose of the AMS-02
    WISE, IRAS, STS telescopes and observatories
    Earth current path in space
    Earth magnetic field major anomalies
    Nasa’s recent Preparedness plan announce
    US GOV recent expenditures for survival food by the hundreds of millions
    All the bunkers in preparation for the last 50 years
    All the retired military/scientific personel retirement safe zones
    The Svaalbard Seed Vault (and other doomsday initiative, of which I lost count…)

    Peace to all Truth Seekers out there, the best is to come.

  155. stevie Says:
    July 1st, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    hi, im 24 years old and the whole 2012 rumors have absoulty terrified me. im actually taking anti depressants. i cant sleep and when i do im having nightmares. im scared to leave my children. and i cant stand living like this anymore. ive read so much on it and even watched them stupid history channels. no matter what i just cant get it to go away. if 2012 dose not happen i feel every scaremonger should be punished strongly. they have completly taken over my life with this. before i heard about this i was the girl who made every1 laugh, a strong indapendant person who was never a follower. i think if i did not have children i would not worry as much but my duty as a mum is to protect and i cant protect my children from the world ending that is my fear. please some1 help me .

  156. Michael Says:
    July 1st, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Getting back to the 2012 topic, as I’ve heard it; 2012 is not about the end of the world (the day will dawn as always) but, rather, as one cycle of the Mayan long-count calendar ends and another begins, this new cycle will introduce a rise in consciousness - a change in vibration of some sort. Nothing will happen all at once. The rise in consciousness will build slowly over thousands of years, perhaps. So that, say, in the year 3000, beings will look back at our time and think “how primitive to think that wars could solve problems and to not see that a successful earth experience requires a one-for-all-and-all-for-one strategy, not a dog eat dog philosophy”. I’ve heard, too, that this is a transition period from one astrological sign (Pisces) to another (Aquarius), but I’m not up on my astrology. Any way, I think the world could use a good rise in consciousness. Could the current “Arab spring” uprisings be the result of a fore-shock of this vibration? Could the near collapse of the global monetary system be proof that we’ve put too much faith in material wealth? Could climate change and pollution be evidence that we’ve pushed the limits of this finite ecosystem? Could we be witnessing the limits of our present consciousness and we are now due for a software update, so to speak. The long-count is about 5,000 year cycle. It is interesting to see what was happening 5,000 years ago: pyramids built, new communication technology (writing) imperialism, etc. It seems just like today. I don’t know about you, but I’m hoping for a raise in consciousness.

  157. Nicholas Riley Says:
    July 17th, 2011 at 3:35 am

    To fellow stevie, It Will not come because, it was just Like 2K
    A Myth, What your getting are fearmongers and acting like they want to die anyways, Giving out information that is not even info, just bizaare hypocrited fact from one single person to gain fame as a fear monger, stevie, your wasting your life, live your life, don’t fear that… things might happen, Hell, It’s future, baby, this is now, and as always, now is the right time to live your life.

  158. mr mad Says:
    July 17th, 2011 at 7:12 am

    its about time we respected this earth all we do is mash it up if nethinks gonna happed thats the solar system slappin us back in the face just like were slappin earth theres only 1 earth people say god made earth if he did arnt u disrespecting him 2 so dont think of wot uv lost wen its gone think and respect wot uv got nw

  159. JustAGirl Says:
    August 2nd, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Ok people, so what is the point? I am asking you - do you want the world come to an end?Why can’t you just enjoy life and hope everything will be better? I am and I will always be optimistic, it is not always so bad as it seems. I admit, that 2012 scared me to death, and now there are predictions for this year, for October 21st or something like that. I really don’t know what to say to those doomsayers who are obviously mad. They only want to make money, that is all. What to you think why are there so many books about how to survive? They cost, you know. But, the main thing why I am angry is - they are frightening children, young people, who don’t want to tell what is bothering them, they’re depressed, and are thinking of making a suicide because they don’t want to see that happening.
    Use common sense, enjoy life, and when you don’t feel well, and everything is looking bad, look on the bright side. Look at the birds, the sun, smile at someone on the street, and wait for the smile back. You’ll feel better :)
    If anyone still believes in those crazy predictions, just read some which where predicted in the past. Starting 1000. AC, and then 1997. Hale Bopp, 2000., 2001., etc.
    Look how some of people reacted, and where did that take them.

  160. anonymous Says:
    August 13th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Thanks you NASA for bringing actual science into the matter.At first the whole 2012 thing scared the crap out of me and at first i believed it until about a year ago I found an online news report http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6300744/2012-is-not-the-end-of-the-world-Mayan-elder-insists.html and That’s what first opened my eyes and then i did some more research and found your page and boy am I glad because it feels like a really huge load has been taken off of mine and a lot of peoples shoulders.

    Thanks NASA and peace to all

  161. Rachael Says:
    August 15th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    I agree with NASA.Nothing is gonna happen in 2012.I think its all a hoax.
    Even if somthing did happen we would’ent even know! But i think we are all gonna be just fine.We will see the year 2013 :)

  162. james in da uk Says:
    August 16th, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    so why has google sky blocked out where elenin is meant to be and microsoft telescope shows us…???i’ve seen it with my own eyes and elenin does not look like a comet this thing is massive with a glowing red centre…very strange!!

  163. james in da uk Says:
    August 16th, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    also is it true this thing has knocked Satan off its axis by about 90 degrees, as a result off this massive thig just passing it????if true whats it going to do to planet earth???

  164. Dawa Sherpa Says:
    August 21st, 2011 at 4:31 am

    People believed that the earth will destroy on 2012? That’s True or only a fact.

  165. derek walter Says:
    August 30th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    well…..since its been a couple years since the last post on here, i guess you all might have changed your opinions a bit, i think the govornment(so thats you nasa) are doing quite an exceptional job at keeeping the public in a non panic mode, thats very good for the growth of this world and technologys and stuff, but it wont be long until all the people in general all know whats going, and soon finally this evil govornment can perish into the underworld where it belongs, and good can provail, and we can all embrace the 2012 changes that we are all about to go through spiritually and physically

  166. Diddz Says:
    September 2nd, 2011 at 8:40 am

    I like planets……and moons. :)

  167. Lulu Says:
    September 2nd, 2011 at 8:48 am

    Hi mom

  168. Diddz Says:
    September 2nd, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Ever since the events of 2012 got close, I start eating Ice cream and marshmallows, like a crazy man.

    Oh, and I love pizza too!

  169. Jake Says:
    September 13th, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    For all you people on here that say everyone is just a skeptic, you are just ignorant, considering that the United States is actually the only country in the world who thinks they can run the whole world. I don’t blame them because it seems to be the way things are anyways, but is it so far to say that they would hide this from us, just like you’ll never know what is inside area 51 now if someone told you they didn’t hide alien technology in there would you believe them?? Especially with all these foriegn countries finally disclosing alot of their ufo history to the public. It is such an ignorant fact that some people say that were the only one’s that developed as intelligent life forms in the whole entire universe, come on people open up your eyes and your minds, I really hope our civilization as a whole can put this stuff behind us and really head towards the next step of human evolution.

  170. Jake Says:
    September 13th, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    And who says that this whole Nibiru thing would be the end of the world?? Although it may be for majority of the world, some of us would prob live as long as impact never occurred. There is too much evidence of something happening now how is it that an ancient culture knew this planet exist but now one of the wealthiest space research programs in the world can’t find it?? Seems fishy to me. I believe that something is going to happen in 2012, now i’m not saying that it will be the end of the world but i do hope it will be the end of the world as we know it. Who knows, maybe we will have some visitors…..

  171. Luke Says:
    September 29th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Don Yeomans, your a blasphemous researcher. how you have a job at NAsa is beyond comprehension, and you should be ashamed of yourself for leading the public astray. Its not hard to realize that this object is not a comet when 100 backdoor astronomers can depict through stereo B that this thing has 6 planets in orbit with it. Also, SOHO observatory tracked a massive CME output as said object was nearing the sun, The sun was flickering like it had been brought to its knees. How do you explain the Jupiter storm rings that dissapeared as a massive electrical discharge rang out from your so called whimpy comet. The fact is, this has 3, to 4 times the mass of the earth. When it passes between the Sun and us, Niburu will supersede our suns gravitational pull and grab our South pole and pull it over as it leaves our plane. If you could take jupiter and blow off the outer gas layers, that is what is floating out there that NASA is all hush hush about…… and if im full of it… how is it holding 6 planets in orbit? Nasa couldnt hide it forever. Extinction Level Event ELE

  172. mesoart Says:
    September 29th, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    We will appreciate if you review this blog-information about 2012. Thanks you.

  173. robert Says:
    October 4th, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    wow all this end of the world crap is really getting out of hand ! there are so many books dedicated to this and then you have the hundreds of t.v shows brain washing people left and right. at the end of the day everybody just decided to jump on the subject to make money off a t.v show or book. get back to your lives people and live on!

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  175. DPN Says:
    October 12th, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    my brother looked at the picture of the so called pyramid-shaped object supposed ly headed this way and he said: ” Looks more like a screenshot from the Stargate Atlantis tv show.” and i agreed with him.

    I don’t have a link to the picture. but if you look at it it looks just like the picture on one of the episodes. and the say something on the show about (pararfrased): “three objects apear to be headed towards Earth, Unknown Origin…..”

  176. nizar Says:
    October 14th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Well, special thank to pro.Donald Yeomans ,today is the 14 of octobar 2011,it is my usually searching in the net to follow news of that nibiru name,frankly from my happiness life,normal life to doom ,black and pessimistic life after i heard of nibiru ,if the reason after that is a tarde for some of the sicientisits ,what is the guilty that people when they heare an un truth news ,what is the guitly of the happy family life when they heare such news and so on ,there are many many ways to paly over people feelings ,but in such a way i don’t think it is too nice ,don’t they have family ?dont’ they have mercy ? don’t they have at lest one white spot in their bodies ,when they’re trying to spread such a news for the end of the life , any how,if that is true ,they thank in paying attention to people and their efforts are over the head we keep it ,but if it is no ,im saying to them why and why and why,God over u and will revange on u for this way by trying to put the horriness in people ,any way the wrods took me from saying after i saw the vedio of pro Donald Yeomans ,the blood back in my boday ,and im saying to him now i will pary to him in every day in my life that God will protect him and save him and wish him all the happiness and the prosperity and the forward in his life ,he got my life back again when he said there is no nibiru there is no planet x and so on ,again again i thank him alot and will pary to him day and night to be in save and to get long life ,thank u Mr.and pro Donald Yeomans , thank u to ur family and that pure mother stomach when she borned one like Mr. and pro Donald Yeomans.

  177. John Says:
    October 28th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    Okay, so I’m interested in two things that I beleive Donald Yeoman misrepresented in his interview. The first is the actual length of the Mayan long count calender. I was under the impression that the short count was around 5,000 years and the long count somewhere in the neighbourhood of 230,000-260,000 years. I also know that although there is no planetary alignment on the 2012 date, there is a galatic alignment of our solar system with the center plane of the Milky way(or at least that what all those Mayan netlfix videos claim), which only comes around every few hundred thousand years. Unsure if this is a cause for concern, but the path that our solar system takes through the Milky way galaxy is apparently cyclical and takes a very long time. Which the Mayans apparently knew or had knowledge about, which again with their limited technology is VERY interesting, at least to me. If they knew that, then they probably knew about others things that would occur, which of course is why 2012 is just so darn interesting!

  178. hobart shipman Says:
    November 16th, 2011 at 6:38 am

    the ancient texts describe the unstable solar system with the creation of earth and the stabilization of the system with the planet nibiru in its orbit …now this was not fiction..it is not dooms day …it was and is nothing to fear..but it is fearful for those who control and make huge profits if the history that we have been fed is changed…so it would be in the best interest of those to deceive us…we are receiving large quantities of energy from outside our solar system…this is a gift(this is how I see it) a gift from the highest power of the universe…this is here to change us..to aid us in the transition we are in…yes we are in transition and the powers that be..KNOW IT..this is nothing to fear…the mayans knew of the transition..the serpents belt has appeared…the constant chemical applications to the sky obscures what is truth..this further poisons the earth and it inhabitants…we can not change what is Universal law…..let the sun shine in take it with a grin…open up your heart and let the sun …shine…in…sing it!!

  179. Amanda Says:
    December 22nd, 2011 at 7:33 am

    I was watching the History Channel last night and to be honest I am a bit freaked out. They had everyone one on there from scientists to survivalists saying that the prophecies have been starting to come true. I am truly frightened. Enough so that I almost want to start making sure that in case something does happen I am prepared for it by having enough food, water, medical supplies and so on. I am usually a VERY rational person and I usually dont believe what I hear on TV but when you hear such frightening things I can’t help but want to be prepared just in case. Im not saying Im going to barricade myself in the house or anything, just that in ANY natural disaster its good prepared. Just like a hurricane or an earthquake, even something like 2012 at least I can make sure there is no cause for concern. What they were describing on the history channel was that these natural disasters will occur first, which will not kill the people. It will supposedly break our government, lose clean water and resources,pestilence will occur and then war which will end us all. I’m not sure about the myan prophecies but what I am sure of it is history repeats it self and what they were predicting could in fact happen at any time.

  180. Al Bersbach Says:
    December 23rd, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    As a former high energy physicist myself, I was surprised and disappointed that your description of the scientific method did not mention the importance of “falsification” in weeding out false hypotheses from true ones and the corresponding fact that science can’t “prove” anything, at least not in any strong sense of that word, I also wish you had mentioned the tendency of scientific “paradigms” to slow down the recognition of new, more correct hypotheses. Yes, evidence is crucial, but science is based more than almost anything else on skepticism and the humility that should accompany it. I fear that without this, your lecture became “I’m an expert and I know best” and that could damage your commendable efforts to counter pseudoscience.

  181. Spike Says:
    January 7th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    I don’t really understand the point of your comment: “The Mayan calendar does not end in December 2012. Just as the calendar you have on your kitchen wall does not cease to exist after December 31, the Mayan calendar does not cease to exist on December 21, 2012. This date is the end of the Mayan long-count period, but then – just as your calendar begins again on January 1 - another long-count period begins for the Mayan calendar.” I have never heard of anyone being concerned that the Mayan calendar itself will cease to exist. The worry is that the Earth will somehow be the object of mass destruction. Whether or not the chunk of Mayan calendar makes it through unscathed doesn’t seem to hold any concern for anyone I’m aware of. And as for my calendar beginning again on January 1, it doesn’t actually begin again, since that is for the previous year. I have to buy another calendar. I hope you don’t think I’m just making a couple of smart-ass comments about your information. You seem adamant in explaining about the Mayan calendar itself. Is there some, maybe, not too esoteric reason for this?

  182. phillip Says:
    January 28th, 2012 at 4:22 am

    what i dont get is why do everyone go off 1 calendar i sorry but we got technology and lots more and we go on 1 flameing calendar god some people need to get a good grip on them selfes and stop playing god and let mother nature take her cors as we have killed this world and i not a tree huger lol but people will kill they selfs coz of were people saying more and more on 2012 messege me i u agree plz

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